im pretty excited about the GPS, but i really hope the in game support isn't just a gimmick. it seems like they might be forcing the issue here. from what i've heard, though, it seems like it should enhance the game. i guess we'll see.

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I don't think it matters if it's a gimmick or not. The Nintendo DS is a gimmick system but since it's cheaper...

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To the comment about DS being a gimmick: No it's not - wrong. I didn't experience Metroid as a near-perfect PC-level FPS, simply because I got the DS for a cheap price. (Point made)

"im pretty excited about the GPS, but i really hope the in game support isn't just a gimmick. it seems like they might be forcing the issue here. from what i've heard, though, it seems like it should enhance the game. i guess we'll see."

Oh, it'll have a purpose! But I'm not going to get one until I am satisfied with Metal Gear: Portable Ops.

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i want to know how MGS is using gps too.

also, will the navigation software be strong enough to upset the prices on other gps devices here in the states? (i doubt that will be the case in japan. i've been to an autobacs in downtown yokuska and the clear majority of aftermarket in car entertainment systems were advanced +$1500 gps navagation systems.)

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"I didn't experience Metroid as a near-perfect PC-level FPS, simply because I got the DS for a cheap price. (Point made)"

I'm happy you like MPH and all, and to each their own in terms of gaming taste, but some things just scream NO - and saying that Metroid is a 'near-perfect PC-level' FPS is one of them. You have to be on some profoundly powerful drugs to buy into that one.

I do think the DS touchscreen and dual displays is somewhat gimmicky. That doesn't mean that it's not beneficial to some games, but come on - anyone who's been around more than a couple of years knows Nintendo is the Gimmick Company: U-Force, Gameboy Printer, Mobile System GB, Power Pad, R.O.B., Power Glove, SNES Mouse, Super Scope, 64DD, Transfer Pak, VRU, etc. Hell, I consider a rumble pack or any vibration device a gimmick, but they're so commonplace these days, people take them for granted.

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Nintendo may have their gimmicks, but we're speaking strictly of the NDS. And NDS as a whole, which the previous poster implied as a holistic gimmick - it's very obvious; that was not some critical analysis for next-gen research. It was a bland, blunt bash, that clumped some essentially beneficial features of the consoles into NDS redundancy.

"You have to be on some profoundly powerful drugs to buy into that one."

And no, I don't buy into that one - I take it as a bona fide fact through very tame and objective observation. I quite seriously mean it; and I believe I have perfectly just bases to make said contention. I own the Japanese DS, and I don't experience that subtle "inconsistency" that most American players experience with their touch-screens - my own friend who also got an American DS fully declared the difference "day and night". However, even considering that inconsistency factor; this game would be the only sample of a remotely -near- perfect PC-level of control. I have yet to see even some of that brand of fluid articulation on the home consoles, because that mouse&keyboard adapter for the PS2 has its own internal flaws, which derail a potentially amazing add-on.

"I do think the DS touchscreen and dual displays is somewhat gimmicky."

That is your opinion, driven by some just examples of a titles that overuse this screen. But gimmick is an entire pretentious drama, which the dual-screens and touchscreen are not, for they do serve a great purpose, and enhance playability as FACT. Such aggressive myopia would imply a drug-high on its own; but since this isn't a drug-rehab clinic - or the inside of some psychiatrist's chamber, I'll refrain from taking names.

I don’t really wish to sit here and debase points that I consider redundant in the bigger picture. It’s only a matter of honing a bit of intellectual honesty, rather than turning into such a PSP reactionary that I start to deny blatant facts.

This wouldn't have happened if the word "gimmick" hadn't come up, which is now the magic word in the handheld community, for unlocking gamer-fanaticism.

Now, please, let's get back on topic rather than beating the decomposed carcass of a dead horse.

Cheers.

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I consider Jeanne D'Arc the first big PSP title for me. I can't wait to get more information on it.

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"Nintendo may have their gimmicks, but we're speaking strictly of the NDS"

You may be speaking strictly of the DS, but I was speaking of Nintendo. Becuase the DS, you know, last time I checked the box, the DS is a Nintendo product.

"I take it as a bona fide fact through very tame and objective observation"

That's an interesting way of saying 'my opinion on this game means more than anyone else' and triggers ye olde bullshit-alarm. I'm sure you believe that Metroid Prime on a 3" display with a small plastic stylus on a 3" touschscreen is a 'bona fide' 'near perfect' equivalent of a PC mouse-keyboard FPS, but unfortunately that doesn't mean it's FACT for everyone else by any means. And I have a Japanese DS, by the way. I wasn't talking about console keyboard/mice add-ons, either, although I'd take a dual analog over the stylus any day. This viewpoint comes from years of playing Quake, Doom, Hexen and other FPS ports on PDAs, wherein people tried valiantly to devise control schemes that would approximate that of a PC. MPH made a bit more progress, but the inherent issues still remain: One hand becomes dedicated to the stylus, which then must serve multiple functions with taps that cannot be executed simultaneously with movement. The other hand is relegated to the available controls: a shoulder button and a d-pad. This is not ideal. I don't find it fun. Accept it and move on.

"That is your opinion"

Yes, it's my opinion - but your opinion is 'bonafide fact'? I'm hardly the first to use the word 'gimmick' with the DS and won't be the last. And it's not just games that 'overuse' the stylus that I'm talking about - more like games that have it shoehorned on like an afterthought, like the otherwise excellent Castlevania.

"But gimmick is an entire pretentious drama, which the dual-screens and touchscreen are not, for they do serve a great purpose, and enhance playability as FACT."

Again, you say my viewpoint is merely my opinion, but somehow your opposing view is elevated to FACT. Well, I've worked on games since around 1988, when I got my first job as a game tester at then-titled Lucasfilm Games. If there's one thing I've learned since then, it's that what constitutes a fun way to play a game is _subjective_, and only a pompous ass would presume that something so open to individual tastes would be ultimately defined by his own personal view. Yes, lots of DS fans would disagree about stylus control not being fun or that it's a 'gimmick', but lots of people who don't care for the DS _would_ agree. So neither your opinion nor mine defines all interpretation. It just so happens that I still like my DS and do appreciate SOME of the stylus oriented games like Trauma Center, Kirby Canvas, etc. But it doesn't change the fact that the touchscreen and dual displays are, for many, gimmicky. But worthless? No. Pointless? No. Having a gimmicky element isn't the end of the world. I think the PSP could use a gimmick or two - I suspect the GPS might fill that void, somewhat.

"Such aggressive myopia would imply a drug-high on its own; but since this isn't a drug-rehab clinic..."

Cool! The 'I'm-rubber-you're-glue' argument! It's Grade 3 all over again. OTOH, the fact that I've owned three DS models (silver US, graphite JP, white DS Lite JP) and historically worked on, played and owned more Nintendo products than others (and there are quite a few others) indicates that if I'm 'myopic', the average gamer may need a white cane and a guide dog - not the kind you can pet with a plastic stylus, either.

Come on, man - I'm not handing down a summary judgment on the value of the DS as a game system because I don't care for MPH controls or that I find the control/screen scheme a little on the quirky side.

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You know, despite that long, and uselessly aggressive rave, you still miss the crooks of my contention by a -LONG- margin. Of course, this time, it'll be attributed to your defensive streak, rather than an honest criticism.

You see, the whole point of dealing with "products rather than companies" attitude stems from poor company trust. I have two PS2s (the original models), that basically suffered untimely malfunction, and early aging. I've had similar experiences with even two original Playstations. Does this mean that my PSP would automatically bomb? No. Does this mean my Slimline PStwo was also destined for doom? Hell no!

But let's just go over your two main points again...

"You may be speaking strictly of the DS, but I was speaking of Nintendo. Becuase the DS, you know, last time I checked the box, the DS is a Nintendo product." - Pixelator.

- Well, no shit! Your colleague, up there, was calling the DS a gimmick; this is no time to over simplify the argument, and then revert to other Nintendo concepts that were largely useless, in order to condemn something that's not.

"Yes, it's my opinion - but your opinion is 'bonafide fact'?" - Pixelator.

- No. I believe it's a popular opinion that the control-scheme is actually a positive-step. The bona fide fact: The game uses radical enhancements, that do have a purpose - thus, not a gimmick.

You didn't like it; I liked it; quite a few people liked it, and you seem to be amongst a minority who didn't. The fact: Mouse Look - "near" perfect. Near being a very avid part of that contention, which I'm highlighting for you, for the third time. The popular opinion: It is very smooth, and an articulation that's almost as good as what we've been used to on a mouse-keyboard combination.

"Cool! The 'I'm-rubber-you're-glue' argument! It's Grade 3 all over again. Cool! The 'I'm-rubber-you're-glue' argument! It's Grade 3 all over again. OTOH, the fact that I've owned three DS models (silver US, graphite JP, white DS Lite JP) and historically worked on, played and owned more Nintendo products than others (and there are quite a few others) indicates that if I'm 'myopic', the average gamer may need a white cane and a guide dog - not the kind you can pet with a plastic stylus, either." - Pixelator.

- No, it's not third-grade, all over again. It's merely the return of a bit of snide rhetoric, to keep things mutual, which has now incited a third-grade drama. And drama equates to bad karma, so I'm not even going to pass any further comments. If you really feel that way about that last comment, then I think there's bigger problems here than the debate of a console's merits.

Point remains that I don't accept this butchered use of the word "gimmick" to describe a generally practical concept, which could be abused from time-to-time.

Now, onto the meat of things as our closure: The whole "how does my view pass as opinion, and yours as fact?"

"If there's one thing I've learned since then, it's that what constitutes a fun way to play a game is _subjective_, and only a pompous ass would presume that something so open to individual tastes would be ultimately defined by his own personal view." - Pixelator, on my comments about how it's fact that such gimmicks do enhance playability.

You do know that when I say "enhance" I am speaking strictly of the word "enhance" and not why, where, when, and how it would impact a gamer's psyche. Practical enhancements, and larger playability are merely stimuli, how the individual in question reacts to said stimuli, is entirely contingent on the individual's own cognitive chemistry. I don't need a videogame resume to recognise a fundamental implication of Freudian psychology (or any other, for that matter): SUBJECTIVITY.

Yes, I belong to that camp of players who are of the opinion that the Metroid scheme was a major step forward; we also believe that it's a popular opinion. So come on, man! Just like you're not handing down judgement on an entire console, I am not handing down judgement on the entire gamer psyche.

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"You know, despite that long, and uselessly aggressive rave"

And what's that, a friendly olive branch? Your comment to me was no less acerbic than my reply. Don't pretend to be the sensitive, thoughtful one, here. You're at least as stubborn and obstinate on this issue as I am. The difference is, I have no problem acknowledging it.

"(my) attitude stems from poor company trust"

Which means you have a bias. That's fine, I have a bias, too. I think Nintendo products are gimmicky, which you agreed with. I'm not ASSUMING the DS is gimmicky based on that history, I'm saying the dual/touchscreen makes it so.

"this is no time to over simplify the argument, and then revert to other Nintendo concepts that were largely useless, in order to condemn something that's not."

Not all the previous Nintendo gimmicks were useless. The SNES Mouse was great if you were into Mario Paint. And I've already made quite plain that I find SOME of the DS stylus games to be fun, and it does give the system a featureset that makes it distinctively different than the GBA and the PSP. Therein lies Nintendo's somewhat subversive tactic - to throw curveballs like the Wiimote and Dual/Touchscreen in to divert you from the fact that the hardware is a marginal improvement over the previous generation. A gimmick doesn't have to be useless to be a gimmick, as I plainly said before.

"The bona fide fact: The game uses radical enhancements, that do have a purpose - thus, not a gimmick."

Actually, said the BONDA FIDE FACT was that it plays like a 'near perfect' PC FPS. Don't change your shoes after you start a race, my man.

Allow me to quote one Merriam-Webster definition: "an ingenious and usually new scheme or angle c : a trick or device used to attract business or attention "

Ergo -- The DS dual screens and stylus control are GIMMICKS. This DOES NOT necessarily preclude their functionality or value, although I do question that as well to an extent (not a condemnation across boards, just not fun for all games).

"The popular opinion: It is very smooth, and an articulation that's almost as good as what we've been used to on a mouse-keyboard combination."

Nowhere to my knowledge has anyone said that this is a 'near perfect' version of a mouse/keyboard PC FPS. Some have called it closer than any console has gotten, some have called it 'cramp inducing' and 1UP said "So it all depends on perspective. As was the case with the controls in Metroid Prime, neither camp is fully right or wrong"... Pretty far from 'bona fide fact'.

"No, it's not third-grade, all over again. It's merely the return of a bit of snide rhetoric, to keep things mutual, which has now incited a third-grade drama"

In other words, it's my fault you resorted to third-grade rhetoric? Come on. Own up.

"Point remains that I don't accept this butchered use of the word "gimmick" to describe a generally practical concept, which could be abused from time-to-time."

I'll allow that some fanboys have been unfairly liberal in the use of that word as regards the DS, but I think you understand my point sufficiently to not kneejerk your way into suspecting me of the same thing.

"I don't need a videogame resume to recognise a fundamental implication of Freudian psychology (or any other, for that matter): SUBJECTIVITY."

*sigh* And yet you have clearly said your take on MPH as being a 'near pefect PC FPS' is BONA FIDE FACT. I'm really getting quite bored with this circular logic. You think it's one way, and I think it's another. End of story. Neither of us can 'prove' it in a purely objective sense.

"Yes, I belong to that camp of players who are of the opinion that the Metroid scheme was a major step forward; we also believe that it's a popular opinion."

I agree THAT is a popular opinion. I also agree it's a step forward in some ways - but not others, like the balancing act you have to deal with, tapping to jump, awkwardness of moving/tapping/holding DS with one hand and d-pad/shoulderbutton/holding DS with the other. Almost every review has mentioned at least some awkwardness.

As for your continued citing of which of our opinions is the more 'popular', it's a debate no-no. Doesn't prove a thing about the subject matter, especially one subject to individual tastes. This 'majority opinion' theory even fails to ratify your opinion of MPH being a NEAR PERFECT PC FPS, because I doubt the majority of gamers out there (which would include hardcore PC FPS fans who are not hardcore DS fans) would agree with your particular previous statements.

"I am not handing down judgement on the entire gamer psyche."

When you say your gameplay opinion is BONDA FIDE FACT, you certainly seem to be speaking for it, if not handing down judgment.

Anyway, feel free to post a reply, but I feel we've reached the impasse. As Hicks said to Ripley in ALIENS: "You've blown the transaxle! You're just grinding metal, ease down... Ease down."

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"I am not handing down judgement on the entire gamer psyche."

When you say your gameplay opinion is BONDA FIDE FACT, you certainly seem to be speaking for it, if not handing down judgment.

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"I am not handing down judgement on the entire gamer psyche."

When you say your game play opinion is BONDA FIDE FACT, you certainly seem to be speaking for it, if not handing down judgment.

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“"I am not handing down judgement on the entire gamer psyche."

When you say your game play opinion is BONDA FIDE FACT, you certainly seem to be speaking for it, if not handing down judgment.” - Pixelator, it'll HELP you if you go back and actually read that part of the post, you know, the one where I distinguish the fact from the human-interpretation of the fact?

"Actually, said the BONDA FIDE FACT was that it plays like a 'near perfect' PC FPS. Don't change your shoes after you start a race, my man." - Pixelator.

Very nice: You actually quote me out of context. Let's get my entire statement, shall we? "(Highlight) I take it as (End Highlight) a bona fide fact through very tame and objective observation," I typed, responding earnestly to the condemning context of how I’d have to be “heavily drugged to buy into that one!” Now, I had hoped that the reader would have the comprehension acumen to harness the spirit of the contention, rather than snapping like manic reactionary; alas, I was wrong. And yes, I said that because that's what that feature/touch screen/whateverthecrap seeks to do; replicate mouse look, which to me and most of my hardcore FPS buddies, is probably a big factor in most late 90s FPS titles. How well you or I react to that, is another issue - once again, read my statement on the facts and the human perception on the said facts, rather than clinging to every word, and even dragging those very words out of context like a semantically obsessed reactionary, who's intentionally finding ways to perpetuate conflict. I really don't care about that part; what you should do is work more towards comprehending the essence of people's contentions rather than grasping at every useless straw. Before turning breathless-blue in the face with spittle-preaching, perhaps you ought to hear people out rather than asserting yourself with such zeal, and assuming that such zeal was warranted. The same neurosis that had you calling that critic in the Portable PS2 thread, a "troll"; funny, the only individual really reacting was you.

And while we're on the subject of being semantically obsessed. You and the "others" can continue calling game concepts "gimmicks" and "gimmicky" and I'll keep showing up and declaring loud and proud, "malapropism, baby!" Hopefully, others will also join in; I know of quite a few who'd be willing enough.

"As for your continued citing of which of our opinions is the more 'popular'," - Pixelator.

Ah, but then why did you agree that it was a popular one? "I agree THAT is a popular opinion": Pixelator. You see, I really don't care about that part. Even IF my opinion's not the popular one… wait, let’s just assume that it is unpopular, for which you can take the burden of proving or disproving; why would you agree, and then challenge? Once again, I useless part of something that was sexed up, -not- by me.

"And what's that, a friendly olive branch? Your comment to me was no less acerbic than my reply. Don't pretend to be the sensitive, thoughtful one, here. You're at least as stubborn and obstinate on this issue as I am. The difference is, I have no problem acknowledging it." - Pixelator - The only useful comment, which tells us more about your perplexed take on others.

No, it’s not a friendly olive branch. Even if I really was the “sensitive, thoughtful one,” I don’t think I’d be investing such assets. What I am, however, is the anti-thesis to every smart, yet annoyingly insecure twit who creates hostile barriers to either alienate or mystify. It’s about taking the graceful approach, and not forcing oneself like a bad case of the sniffles onto others. I shouldn’t pretend? Lawl! Wow! You seem to have my pretends figured out - are you mind-reader? Seems like you're not - and for the record: Even now we're not on hostile terms, because this is just funny! Yes, it's mighty spiteful, but all that credit goes to you, I couldn't take away from that accomplishment! I wasn't being hostile at all, the first time I responded to you, when YOU had pounced me with condescending implications about how one must be doped-dead to have such opinion. That act in itself was bad tasting, but whatever; I didn't snap at that. I was merely responding to another person's conjecture with my own feedback, and you then interjected--and not in the most graceful manner--tossed the 'good for you, it's your opinion' bone my way, before resorting to some snide rhetorical comments about the said opinion (Cite: "You have to be on some profoundly powerful drugs to buy into that one." - Pixelator) You want to believe that my response to that was hostility, and that comment in itself instigated nothing? Then by all means, believe it all you want - you'll be wrong, but you're free to be wrong. Like I said, that implies much bigger issues for you beyond a feeble debate on videogames.

"Anyway, feel free to post a reply, but I feel we've reached the impasse. As Hicks said to Ripley in ALIENS: "You've blown the transaxle! You're just grinding metal, ease down... Ease down."" - Pixelator.

Impasse: Right! But I can agree (intentional misinterpretation); you do need to cool down.

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Due to your tendency toward such strenuous and stentorian lengths to squeeze the bitter life out of any possible amicable conclusion to this embarrassing display, I'm signing off after this. Whip out that overactively imaginary ego-paintbrush and slop those lovely ad-hominem strokes of 'manic' or 'reactionary' onto me, it still doesn't change an iota of your original comments.

Cloud the discussion with esoteric, antagonistic & ultimately vapid nonsense, wax pseudointellectual to your heart's content (vocabulary is easy to flaunt - comprehension and eloquence are a bit more elusive). You still made the original logically bankrupt argument, and all your sarcastic, sniping histrionic prodding in the world doesn't change the fallacy of your 'tame observation' that MPH = NEAR PERFECT PC FPS a BONA FIDE FACT. Your verbal urination all over this argument with your needless

Allow me to place one of those nice industrial strength floor fans in front of the billowing acrid shitsmoke you've belched out thus far. There. All gone! What are we left with? Ah, here we go:

* Metroid Prime Hunters doesn't play just like, or even nearly like, a PC FPS. You disagree.

* The DS is dual display and touchscreen are, to an extent, gimmicks. You disagree.

Every single other thing said to this point is, essentially, horse shit. Good day.

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@13:What I am, however, is the anti-thesis to every smart, yet annoyingly insecure twit who creates hostile barriers to either alienate or mystify.

...WOW. Are you talking about yourself?

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Ohhh! Burn! Aren’t we touchy today?!

*Enjoys a good laugh!* Now, that sort of made the last couple of comments, worth my while.

And here I am, being accused of using ad hominems! Or big words with poor comprehension, for that matter. *Laughs some more* Yeah, sure! (End sarcasm) You, sir, could become the poster-image of psychological projection. Though I’ll admit that even you weren’t looking to obfuscate with distracting tirades, so much as you were seeking to demonise me.

As for the statement - you keep dragging it out of context, when the entire comment was a very direct response to, “you must be very drugged to buy into that,” to which I replied, “I take it as bonda fide fact through my own tame and objective observation.” Get it? Really, one would have to have autism to miss that, which is rarely the case. So I'm going to go with the alternative; intentional desire to agitate others by engineering their statements out of context. Why am I even repeating this? Yes, comprehension is elusive, and your zealot stance is testament to this folly.

“Allow me to place one of those nice industrial strength floor fans in front of the billowing acrid shitsmoke you've belched out thus far. There. All gone! What are we left with? Ah, here we go:” - Pixelator.

- Careful, you’re projecting, again!

“* Metroid Prime Hunters doesn't play just like, or even nearly like, a PC FPS. You disagree.” - Pixelator

- I disagree with the latter segment of your statement. It comes close in an important aspect. This is leaving out, the entire drama that was tactfully elicited; out-of-context citation of comments, included.

“* The DS is dual display and touchscreen are, to an extent, gimmicks. You disagree.”

- Malapropism. I expressed my displeasure for such sloppy use of the word “gimmick” within the fandom, but that’s digressing, now. And no, I disagreed with the comment: "NDS is a gimmick system." You know, that initial comment by someone else, to which I replied, which then prompted your inflated, Pavlovian test-subject-ego, to jump-in, and assert its pompous condescendence into the ploy. Damn, the comprehension is getting embarrassing.

“Every single other thing said to this point is, essentially, horse shit. Good day.”

-*Laughs* Not excluding the laughable analysis (subtext: slandering) of my comments.


"...WOW. Are you talking about yourself?" - tankgirlz.

- This doesn't concern you, sorry.

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Can you say out of control egomaniac nerd? How could seemingly intelligent people engage in such an incredible waste of time? We're talking about GAME SYSTEMS.

::slaps everyone in the face several times::

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I haven't taken you 'out of context' by liberating the key points you've attempted to make out of the tedious paragraphs of ad hominem dimestore psychoblather they're deeply couched within.

You: "I didn't experience Metroid as a near-perfect PC-level FPS, simply because I got the DS for a cheap price. (Point made)"

Me: "I'm happy you like MPH and all, and to each their own in terms of gaming taste, but some things just scream NO - and saying that Metroid is a 'near-perfect PC-level' FPS is one of them. You have to be on some profoundly powerful drugs to buy into that one."

You called MPH a near-perfect PC-level FPS and added smugly, 'point made'. I followed that you were entitled to your opinion, but that I thought you were, essentially, smoking the crack. After a particularly spastic bout of verbal self-gratification to simply say that I, on the other hand, was NOT entitled to MY opinion, I now deny the likelihood of you being ON drugs. Rather, I think you're in desperate NEED of them. A robust neuroleptic, pehaps?

As for the gimmickry: I find most amusing your yelping MALAPROPISM at the word GIMMICKRY... Do you even know what MALAPROPISM means? Britannica.com: "verbal blunder in which one word is replaced by another similar in sound but different in meaning." -- Oh, of course, I made such a blunder! The DS is a LIMERICKY system.

*laughs until sides hurt*

...Here's a helpful link with examples and history of MALAPROPISMS, by the way... *wiping tears, still laughing*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malapropism

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“I haven't taken you 'out of context' by liberating the key points you've attempted to make out of the tedious paragraphs of ad hominem dimestore psychoblather they're deeply couched within.” - Pixelator.

- Sure, whatever chain of beliefs get you to sleep at night, baby. Perhaps a lixotinal, twice a day, might also help. Oh, oh, wait… Mr. Wannabe-Big-Boy-On-Campus has now pulled out his prescription pad. This should be good…

“You called MPH a near-perfect PC-level FPS and added smugly, 'point made'. I followed that you were entitled to your opinion, but that I thought you were, essentially, smoking the crack. After a particularly spastic bout of verbal self-gratification to simply say that I, on the other hand, was NOT entitled to MY opinion, I now deny the likelihood of you being ON drugs. Rather, I think you're in desperate NEED of them. A robust neuroleptic, pehaps?”

- Wrong! Wrong! And more wrong! It’s funny, I could declare the exact same critique about your stance through this entire egomaniacal trip of a dialog. It seems like you're denying me an opinion. You see, while you are entitled to your opinion, I am also entitled to offer dissent to your opinion with my own. And now I shall add by saying that the only thing worse than a psychotic - you, is a psychotic - you again, who’s taken it upon himself to prescribe neurological-and-psychiatric treatment for the rest of this world - the rest of us meagre mortals. “A robust neuroleptic, perhaps?” Oh, now it makes sense; an obscure shade from your past, perhaps?

And very nice, Mr. Semantic would eventually glean the concept, and unconventionally classic roots of the word “malapropism”; I was just waiting for that one. That, sir, was nothing but a bitter euphemism to describe how you and your fellow colleagues seem to be hell-bent on smearing a word such as gimmick. Of course it isn’t a malapropism in the technical sense; for you to have missed something -that- friggin’ obvious is a sad joke on its own. Of course it isn't, but considering how much your cronies have trivialised the word "gimmick", IT OUGHT TO BE! But, while we’re at it; does it make you feel better? I mean, you did attempt getting another last word in, while all petty means to ridicule the opposition - a position... No! THE only position to which you’ll -ever- be acclimatised!

So, are you feeling better now? *Continues gut-laughing.*


“Can you say out of control egomaniac nerd? How could seemingly intelligent people engage in such an incredible waste of time? We're talking about GAME SYSTEMS.

::slaps everyone in the face several times::” - tankgirlz

- I am going to say something to you, which pixelator enjoys beating and bullying out of people; you’re right.

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Yeah, TG is right.

"It seems like you're denying me an opinion. You see, while you are entitled to your opinion, I am also entitled to offer dissent to your opinion with my own."

Agreed insofar as we both strove to deny the others opinion. Which came first is irrelevant. I did try to preface the 'drugs' comment with saying 'to each their own' in gaming tastes, however.

I *welcome* the fact that you have a dissenting opinion! That's how folks learn stuff. Dissent away.

Maybe I'll even dig out MPH and give it another go. It's late. I also formally apologize to you for being a dick... It's been a long day.

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