Posted Aug 21st 2006 12:20PM by Andrew Yoon Filed under: News, Video
Joystiq loves stories about the PS3's XMB... and so do we. IGN got their hands on direct-feed footage of the XMB in action, and it shows you how simple everything is on the PS3. You'll notice the return of the homebrew-hating "Network Update" icon, and a list of System Settings that's more than eerily similar. Almost everything is ripped from the PSP, right down to pressing the Right button to continue in menus, and the little clicking noises that are made when selecting an option. If anyone makes fun of your PSP as just a "Portable PlayStation," feel free to tell them that no... it's a portable PlayStation 3. [Via IGN]
Tags: ign, joystiq, network update, NetworkUpdate, playstation 3, Playstation3, ps3, psp, system settings, SystemSettings, xmb
8-21-2006 @ 1:57PM
Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V at their finest. Kudos Sony on cutting corners wherever you can. The PSP served as the perfect beta test.
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8-21-2006 @ 2:25PM
Who cares? Sure, it's somewhat simple, but it also could mean more compatibility with the PSP. And before you get all up about Sony hating homebrew, I had to upgrade my new 360's firmware TWICE the other night before I could play the two games I got for it. Firmware security is not exclusive to Sony.
8-22-2006 @ 1:14AM
@ pixelator: "I had to upgrade my new 360's firmware TWICE the other night before I could play the two games I got for it. Firmware security is not exclusive to Sony." The difference between the Dashboard Firmware and the PSP firmware is that the former actually improves the product, whereas the PSP's firmware is plauged with useless features meant only to mask the fact that each additional patch is a method of closing security holes that will deny the few people who still have their PSP the pleasure of the only thing that's worth having the PSP for: homebrew. Besides the 2.0 firmware that introduced the browser and the 2.8 firmware that introduced the demo downloading (though no one besides a select few consider this worth upgrading for), the rest of the 10 or so patches have been just that.
8-22-2006 @ 5:09AM
First. XMB originally appeared on PSX. That funny home media center with PS2 built in. Japan only machine. Sony stated then that XMB would play a part in making their systems more universal. So its not being copied from PSP at all. Its a common interface you'll see more of in general Sony products, even TV's at some point. Second. Isn't it PALINLY obvious that this is a developer system menu? I know if I was developing on a system the LAST thing I want is flash annoying graphics and unecessary icons (such as media functions). I'd want something that interferes with productivity as LEAST as possible. Third. Hows about Linux for homebrew and leave the XMB for the "Official" stuff. Seems like a well thought plan. I really hope Sony sort out the homebrew side of things though. At least they seem to be going some way by allowing small developers into play and helping any cool projects come to fruit on the PNP (or whatever it will be). You can't blame them though, its not JUST homebrew that is allowed when the PSP is cracked... UMD's can be booted too.... not good for thier Game business.
8-22-2006 @ 10:18AM
@ Franky Digital 2.00 and 2.80 weren't the only one with usefull additions (demo download was part of 2.71 btw) there was the form data saving in 2.50 which is pretty handy and the RSS support in 2.60 with the video addon in the recent 2.80 and not forget the easier file/folder naming in that for the media on your memory stick. @pspfanboy Why not link to the E3 video of the interface demo which looks way more complete then this one from a devkit? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7247017621735985253
8-22-2006 @ 2:17PM
"PSP's firmware is plauged with useless features" Really? Like a browser, RSS video feeds, flash, free folder naming convention, downloadable game demos, added audio & image formats, added video playback features, wallpaper/themes, and image transfers? And hey, thank GOD for MICROSOFT updating the Dashboard firmware, because they're not doing the same thing at all. Every Dashboard update has had TONS of added functionality to cover up the security patches. That's why a recent 360 blogger wrote this about the last one: 'A bit of an anti climax. Looks and works the same but with a couple of new buttons. You would be hard pressed to tell the difference.' "deny the few people who still have their PSP the pleasure of the only thing that's worth having the PSP for" Ah, true hater colors! Just so! I think there's only maybe 5 or 6 PSP owners left in the world. Nothing else worth using it for but homebrew, regardless of what those morons at Gamespot, Metacritic & Gamerankings say about more AA+ titles than the DS. You are SO right! It's a bloody paperweight. Without the ability to play pirated ROMs of SNES, NES, TG16 & Genesis games, the PSP is nothing. Be assured, all of us PSP owning idiots have now been properly schooled as to the uselessness of firmware updates and the system itself. You can now sleep soundly - or go back to playing with your Wii.
8-22-2006 @ 7:32PM
phipscube 1 wrote: > So its not being copied from PSP at all. Its a common > interface you'll see more of in general Sony > products, even TV's at some point. Its already in TVs. All top-end BRAVIA Sony LCD TVs have Cross Media Bar (that how this interface is called). Furthemore, its can also be found in some of the Sony Cybershot cameras, such as N50. @ Franky Digital You are a moron and an idiot. PSP firmware updates serve 3 main reasons: 1) Add new features, such as RSS, WEB support, etc. 2) Support new devices, e.g. update 2.6 added support for the microphone, which is used in Talkman - a PSP game that was released in Japan, was hugely popular and was ripped off by Nintendo later 3) Fix bugs in PSP kernel. Some bugs, actually a lot of them, have nothing to do with homebrew, while others are used by homebrew to get hooks inside of the system. In any case, all this homebrew activity is limited to a very small circle of nerdy game geeks, who are disproportionally prevalent on Joystiq blogs. A 99.9% of normal PSP users (i.e. not sh!t heads who call themselve "Digital") do not give a rat ass about homebrew. So, tough shit, retard.
8-22-2006 @ 9:29PM
Actually Killbloggers, I don't think the percentage of people that use homebrew on Joystiq are that high. You might notice that we tailor the stories we put up here to be related to things you can do with official firmware (like our video podcast stories). However, homebrew is still an important newsworthy part of the PSP scene, so once in a while, something truly amazing might make it onto the site. Unlike ::cough:: some other sites ::cough:: that post every single miniscule (and uninteresting) thing out there.
8-23-2006 @ 3:08AM
There's really no reason for me to upgrade my PSP's firmware past 1.50. Devhook lets me emulate 2.71 perfectly and 1.50 lets me control my PC and xbox straight from the PSP. The PS3's XMB is a blatant copy and paste from the PSP. We all know it. At least the 360's dashboard looks stylish with different blades-etc. The PSP's XMB is just clumping everything together in one screen and odds are, the user's going to feel like he's navigating an extremely large PSP instead of a next gen playstation.
8-23-2006 @ 10:39AM
You mean there's no reason for you to upgrade past 2.7, because that's the current downgrader cutoff. It's not like there were no benefits in updates after 1.5. And there was a reason to up to 2.8, for me at least, Video RSS and open naming convention for video files/folders. After having PDAs for the past 7 years, I'm emulator-ed out so there's little pulling me to homebrew. Of course the PS3 XMB looks like the PSP. You'll likely be able to navigate the PS3 menus from the PSP, thus the 'super remote' rumors. I have an XBOX 360 and while the menus do look better, they're not as quick to navigate as my PSP, so *shrug*. Personally, I'm more interested in games than the dashboard or XMB. I just don't get all the rabid nitpicking over the PS3 that goes on... Other than it being expensive for having a Blue Ray drive, I don't see what the problem is.
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8-21-2006 @ 1:57PM
Franky Digital said...
Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V at their finest. Kudos Sony on cutting corners wherever you can. The PSP served as the perfect beta test.
Reply
8-21-2006 @ 2:25PM
pixelator said...
Who cares? Sure, it's somewhat simple, but it also could mean more compatibility with the PSP. And before you get all up about Sony hating homebrew, I had to upgrade my new 360's firmware TWICE the other night before I could play the two games I got for it. Firmware security is not exclusive to Sony.
Reply
8-22-2006 @ 1:14AM
Franky Digital said...
@ pixelator: "I had to upgrade my new 360's firmware TWICE the other night before I could play the two games I got for it. Firmware security is not exclusive to Sony."
The difference between the Dashboard Firmware and the PSP firmware is that the former actually improves the product, whereas the PSP's firmware is plauged with useless features meant only to mask the fact that each additional patch is a method of closing security holes that will deny the few people who still have their PSP the pleasure of the only thing that's worth having the PSP for: homebrew. Besides the 2.0 firmware that introduced the browser and the 2.8 firmware that introduced the demo downloading (though no one besides a select few consider this worth upgrading for), the rest of the 10 or so patches have been just that.
Reply
8-22-2006 @ 5:09AM
phipscube said...
First. XMB originally appeared on PSX. That funny home media center with PS2 built in. Japan only machine. Sony stated then that XMB would play a part in making their systems more universal. So its not being copied from PSP at all. Its a common interface you'll see more of in general Sony products, even TV's at some point.
Second. Isn't it PALINLY obvious that this is a developer system menu? I know if I was developing on a system the LAST thing I want is flash annoying graphics and unecessary icons (such as media functions). I'd want something that interferes with productivity as LEAST as possible.
Third. Hows about Linux for homebrew and leave the XMB for the "Official" stuff. Seems like a well thought plan. I really hope Sony sort out the homebrew side of things though. At least they seem to be going some way by allowing small developers into play and helping any cool projects come to fruit on the PNP (or whatever it will be). You can't blame them though, its not JUST homebrew that is allowed when the PSP is cracked... UMD's can be booted too.... not good for thier Game business.
Reply
8-22-2006 @ 10:18AM
AL7AIR said...
@ Franky Digital
2.00 and 2.80 weren't the only one with usefull additions (demo download was part of 2.71 btw) there was the form data saving in 2.50 which is pretty handy and the RSS support in 2.60 with the video addon in the recent 2.80 and not forget the easier file/folder naming in that for the media on your memory stick.
@pspfanboy
Why not link to the E3 video of the interface demo which looks way more complete then this one from a devkit?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7247017621735985253
Reply
8-22-2006 @ 2:17PM
pixelator said...
"PSP's firmware is plauged with useless features"
Really? Like a browser, RSS video feeds, flash, free folder naming convention, downloadable game demos, added audio & image formats, added video playback features, wallpaper/themes, and image transfers? And hey, thank GOD for MICROSOFT updating the Dashboard firmware, because they're not doing the same thing at all. Every Dashboard update has had TONS of added functionality to cover up the security patches. That's why a recent 360 blogger wrote this about the last one: 'A bit of an anti climax. Looks and works the same but with a couple of new buttons. You would be hard pressed to tell the difference.'
"deny the few people who still have their PSP the pleasure of the only thing that's worth having the PSP for"
Ah, true hater colors! Just so! I think there's only maybe 5 or 6 PSP owners left in the world. Nothing else worth using it for but homebrew, regardless of what those morons at Gamespot, Metacritic & Gamerankings say about more AA+ titles than the DS. You are SO right! It's a bloody paperweight. Without the ability to play pirated ROMs of SNES, NES, TG16 & Genesis games, the PSP is nothing.
Be assured, all of us PSP owning idiots have now been properly schooled as to the uselessness of firmware updates and the system itself. You can now sleep soundly - or go back to playing with your Wii.
Reply
8-22-2006 @ 7:32PM
Killbloggers said...
phipscube 1 wrote:
> So its not being copied from PSP at all. Its a common
> interface you'll see more of in general Sony
> products, even TV's at some point.
Its already in TVs. All top-end BRAVIA Sony LCD TVs have Cross Media Bar (that how this interface is called). Furthemore, its can also be found in some of the Sony Cybershot cameras, such as N50.
@ Franky Digital
You are a moron and an idiot.
PSP firmware updates serve 3 main reasons: 1) Add new features, such as RSS, WEB support, etc. 2) Support new devices, e.g. update 2.6 added support for the microphone, which is used in Talkman - a PSP game that was released in Japan, was hugely popular and was ripped off by Nintendo later 3) Fix bugs in PSP kernel. Some bugs, actually a lot of them, have nothing to do with homebrew, while others are used by homebrew to get hooks inside of the system.
In any case, all this homebrew activity is limited to a very small circle of nerdy game geeks, who are disproportionally prevalent on Joystiq blogs. A 99.9% of normal PSP users (i.e. not sh!t heads who call themselve "Digital") do not give a rat ass about homebrew.
So, tough shit, retard.
Reply
8-22-2006 @ 9:29PM
Andrew Yoon said...
Actually Killbloggers, I don't think the percentage of people that use homebrew on Joystiq are that high. You might notice that we tailor the stories we put up here to be related to things you can do with official firmware (like our video podcast stories). However, homebrew is still an important newsworthy part of the PSP scene, so once in a while, something truly amazing might make it onto the site.
Unlike ::cough:: some other sites ::cough:: that post every single miniscule (and uninteresting) thing out there.
Reply
8-23-2006 @ 3:08AM
NxJ NightHawk said...
There's really no reason for me to upgrade my PSP's firmware past 1.50.
Devhook lets me emulate 2.71 perfectly and 1.50 lets me control my PC and xbox straight from the PSP.
The PS3's XMB is a blatant copy and paste from the PSP. We all know it.
At least the 360's dashboard looks stylish with different blades-etc. The PSP's XMB is just clumping everything together in one screen and odds are, the user's going to feel like he's navigating an extremely large PSP instead of a next gen playstation.
Reply
8-23-2006 @ 10:39AM
pixelator said...
You mean there's no reason for you to upgrade past 2.7, because that's the current downgrader cutoff. It's not like there were no benefits in updates after 1.5. And there was a reason to up to 2.8, for me at least, Video RSS and open naming convention for video files/folders. After having PDAs for the past 7 years, I'm emulator-ed out so there's little pulling me to homebrew.
Of course the PS3 XMB looks like the PSP. You'll likely be able to navigate the PS3 menus from the PSP, thus the 'super remote' rumors. I have an XBOX 360 and while the menus do look better, they're not as quick to navigate as my PSP, so *shrug*. Personally, I'm more interested in games than the dashboard or XMB. I just don't get all the rabid nitpicking over the PS3 that goes on... Other than it being expensive for having a Blue Ray drive, I don't see what the problem is.
Reply